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[[File:Fizz is Pop.jpg|thumb|"Fizz is Pop" tongue in cheek bellcurve meme from the fizzmemes_ page on instagram]]
[[File:Fizz is Pop.jpg|thumb|"Fizz is Pop" tongue in cheek bellcurve meme from the fizzmemes_ page on instagram]]
"Fizz is Pop" is an aphorism and metaphorical joke in the fizz community that attempts to illustrate some key tenants of Fizzosophy that apply to describing fizz music and its position as a genre that is distinct from its predecessors (bass music and jazz).
'''"Fizz is Pop"''' is a saying in fizz music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a "by musicians for musicians" genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at it's core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. "unhinged musical shenanigans" and "music theory and sound design abuse" are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as "[[The Thing]]", which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea in the fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of "Endless Pursuit of The Thing" within fizz, as well as the tenant "Everything Matters" (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  


Fizz is Pop essentially combines "Everything Matters" from the 3 Axioms triangle of the [[Torus of Fizzosophy|Torus]] with [[Dark Fizz]]'s "Endless Pursuit of [[The Thing]]". This pertains to the fact that both fizz music and the best pop music share these two core values and missions, and that this makes fizz music more in line with pop music than it does with most jazz or bass music.
The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clapback to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that the reason a fizz musicians dislikes a song, is that there aren't [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn't going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn't that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myth about fizz musicians' tastes never cease to get internal eye roles from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it's okay, now you probably understand why it's wrong once you've gone down the rabbit whole here.  


Fizz is Pop attempts to challenge the idea that fizz musicians only dislike certain musical ideas or songs because they are "simple" or "don't use complex crazy chords and rhythms", when the true reason for disliking a song has to do with the song lacking in a "defined" idea, commonly referred to in the fizz community as [[The Thing]] (which is widely recognized to be something that can be possessed by both simple and by complex ideas). Pop music, and particularly dance pop artists like Pink Pantheress or charliexcx, are commonly cited as very inspiring by fizz musicians. Talk to a fizz musican about what else they listen to, and you're more likely to hear about pop than jazz.
"Fizz is pop" in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  


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Revision as of 17:21, 8 July 2026

"Fizz is Pop" tongue in cheek bellcurve meme from the fizzmemes_ page on instagram

"Fizz is Pop" is a saying in fizz music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a "by musicians for musicians" genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at it's core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. "unhinged musical shenanigans" and "music theory and sound design abuse" are essential tenants of fizzosophy afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as "The Thing", which is believed by some to be the most important idea in the fizz movement (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming slopocalypse) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of "Endless Pursuit of The Thing" within fizz, as well as the tenant "Everything Matters" (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music than it does with jazz music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.

The saying created in opposition to denial of fizz as its own genre and as a clapback to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that the reason a fizz musicians dislikes a song, is that there aren't 7+ notes per chord and the song isn't going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn't that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myth about fizz musicians' tastes never cease to get internal eye roles from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it's okay, now you probably understand why it's wrong once you've gone down the rabbit whole here.

"Fizz is pop" in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.

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