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		<title>Fizzwikiadmin at 23:26, 15 July 2026</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:26, 15 July 2026&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ShankaraFizz at 07:03, 12 July 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring some form of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;it &lt;/del&gt;for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring some form of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;them &lt;/ins&gt;for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ShankaraFizz at 07:02, 12 July 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a sort &lt;/del&gt;of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;some form &lt;/ins&gt;of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://fizzwiki.com/index.php?title=Fizz_is_Pop&amp;diff=1355&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>ShankaraFizz at 07:02, 12 July 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-07-12T07:02:21Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring a of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having harbouring a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;sort &lt;/ins&gt;of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>ShankaraFizz at 07:02, 12 July 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;sort &lt;/del&gt;of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far as accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;harbouring &lt;/ins&gt;a of naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://fizzwiki.com/index.php?title=Fizz_is_Pop&amp;diff=1353&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>ShankaraFizz at 07:01, 12 July 2026</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:01, 12 July 2026&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying was created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;as &lt;/ins&gt;accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a sort of &lt;/ins&gt;naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
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		<title>Marseraph: Fixed grammar of caption</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Fizz is Pop.jpg|thumb|&quot;Fizz is Pop&quot; tongue in cheek &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;bellcurve &lt;/del&gt;meme from the fizzmemes_ page on &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;instagram&lt;/del&gt;]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Fizz is Pop.jpg|thumb|&quot;Fizz is Pop&quot; tongue&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;in&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;cheek &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;bell curve &lt;/ins&gt;meme from the fizzmemes_ page on &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Marseraph</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://fizzwiki.com/index.php?title=Fizz_is_Pop&amp;diff=1317&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>ShankaraFizz at 19:48, 10 July 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-07-10T19:48:22Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;was &lt;/ins&gt;created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye rolls from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Marseraph: Corrected &quot;eye role&quot; to &quot;eye roll&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2026-07-10T15:28:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Corrected &amp;quot;eye role&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;eye roll&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;roles &lt;/del&gt;from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;rolls &lt;/ins&gt;from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone [https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages down the rabbit-hole] here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Marseraph</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>ShankaraFizz at 23:05, 9 July 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Fizz is Pop&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a saying in [[fizz]] music culture that brings light to the idea that fizz music, despite being a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;based&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; genre (in the same broader way that progressive jazz and EDM music tend to be) is at its core far more about intentional clarity and defined gestures than about technicality or complexity as an end in and of itself (even though those things do show up all the time in fizz. &amp;quot;unhinged musical shenanigans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;music theory and sound design abuse&amp;quot; are essential tenants of [[Torus of Fizzosophy|fizzosophy]] afterall). Fizz musicians commonly refer to this defined and intentional gestural clarity as &amp;quot;[[The Thing]]&amp;quot;, which is believed by some to be the [[Dark Fizz|most important idea]] in the [[Fizz Movement|fizz movement]] (aside from perhaps saving human made art itself from the coming [[The Great Slop Reset|slopocalypse]]) when you strip everything down to its core. This core philosophy and goal of &amp;quot;Endless Pursuit of The Thing&amp;quot; within fizz, as well as the tenant &amp;quot;Everything Matters&amp;quot; (where every single musical choice down to the smallest decisions about individual notes are recognized as a deliberate intentions that changes the final result) are philosophies that fizz music and pop music shares. This makes the best fizz music more in line the best pop music [[Fizz vs. Jazz|than it does with jazz]] music, which explains why based pop songs are far more talked about amongst fizz musicians than complex progressive jazz music is.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye roles from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone down the rabbit &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;whole &lt;/del&gt;here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The saying created in opposition to [[This-is-just-ism|denial of fizz as its own genre]] and as a clap-back to accusations that fizz musicians dislike simple music. Some of these accusations go as far accusing fizz musicians of being snobby and having naive elitism about music, implying that when a fizz musician dislikes a song it&#039;s because there aren&#039;t [[Oreo Theory|7+ notes per chord]] and the song isn&#039;t going full Tigran Hamasyan with the time signatures, rather than that maybe the song just isn&#039;t that interesting or is lacking in intention (something that both complex songs and simple songs can suffer from). These pervasive myths about fizz musicians&#039; tastes never cease to get internal eye roles from fizz musicians that have heard it for the millionth time. Maybe you said it, and got sent this page in response, but it&#039;s okay, now you probably understand why it&#039;s wrong once you&#039;ve gone &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[https://fizzwiki.com/Special:AllPages &lt;/ins&gt;down the rabbit&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-hole] &lt;/ins&gt;here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Fizz is pop&amp;quot; in its phrasing is a bit of an aphorism, bordering on a humorous half truth and tongue and cheek metaphorical figure of speech.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Fizz Lore]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ShankaraFizz</name></author>
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